PS: Speaking of robotics, what skills do you think M&O teams need to have when it comes to reprogramming?
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MW: When I started in the robot business, the joke was, yeah, the robots were going to do the work of your labor on the floor, but you needed to hire a couple of PhDs to program them. Now most of the robots on the market can be taught using walk-through or lead-through techniques. The robots and the robotic equipment are getting smarter, so the skills required for reprogramming them are less. The expertise of the workflow is what’s more important. With our vision-guided vehicles, people who train the vehicles to run around the facility are the guys who drive manual trucks now, because they know the routes better than the engineers in the plant did.
We have one site where 50 trucks are running. And there’s one person per shift responsible for taking care of them.
PS: What about safety concerns? Do you see a point when vehicles could be reprogramming themselves on the fly?
MW: I sit on the standard committee for guided vehicles. In the current standard, if the vehicle goes off the guided path, it has to declare an emergency stop. So now the question is, if they’re rerouting themselves automatically, when are they really lost? The committee’s just starting to address that.
Seegrid set up a thing called “Rules of the Road” to establish who’s got priority. If a human driver wants to turn into an intersection but a guided vehicle is already there, they have to give way to the guided vehicle. This improves safety for facilities that could otherwise look like the Wild West.
PS: What’s driving interest today in scalable automation?
MW: I think what’s happened in the marketplace is the rate of change is increasing. In terms of product change, you know, people like (new) phones to come out every year. That makes it harder for people who build “monuments” or fixed automation systems. With modularity, you have shorter implementation times.